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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to the very first episode of Philosophy, Programs and Prompts!

In this inaugural episode, hosts Casey Hart (a PhD ontologist building graph data models from @OntologyExplained ) and Carl Brown (a veteran software engineer from @InternetOfBugs  ) team up to cut through the massive corporate hype and apocalyptic doom surrounding Artificial General Intelligence (AGI).

As two real humans with deep industry expertise, they place their bets on an AGI gambling line—explaining why we shouldn't expect human-level machine intelligence until at least 2075. They dive into the mechanics of how Large Language Models (LLMs) use multi-dimensional vector spaces, debate whether "usage" equals true "understanding," and look back at history to see how AI fits into the long legacy of human automation.

Grab a seat, lower your pulse, and join a balanced, conversational, and deeply honest exploration of where AI is actually headed. Don't forget to subscribe and leave your questions or title suggestions in the comments for future episodes!

00:00 - Prelude: When Will We Have AGI?
00:18 - Welcome to Philosophy, Programs and Prompts
01:09 - How Casey and Carl Met (The YouTube Algorithm)
02:06 - Host Bios: Ontological Graphs vs. Software Rescue
06:50 - Full Disclosure: Financial Stakes in the AI Boom
10:14 - Defining AI and Navigating Changing Definitions
13:42 - What is AGI? (Narrow AI vs. General Intelligence)
18:00 - The Over/Under: Placing Bets on 2070–2075
22:46 - Why LLMs Don’t "Learn" Like Humans Do
24:50 - The Turing Test & Vector Spaces: Usage vs. Meaning
32:56 - History Repeats Itself: AI as an Automation Tool
36:49 - How the Internet Changed Programming Jobs
41:15 - OpenAI, Scaling Walls, and Moving Past "Attention"
44:00 - Lessons from Telephone Operators: Easing Social Transitions
47:43 - Wrap Up: Send Us Your Comments and Questions!

Carl's video on the meaning of "AI": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ajyr5VzS0 

More info about Casey:
https://CaseyHart.com/
More info about Carl:
https://InternetOfBugs.com/

#AGI #ArtificialIntelligence #AIHype #TechPodcast #PhilosophyOfAI #FutureOfTech #LLM #SoftwareEngineering #NewPodcast #PhilosophyProgramsAndPrompts]]></itunes:summary>
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